Rick Warren, Brian Brodersen and the Lies of Chrislam

Recently Calvary Chapel’s Facebook page posted a video clip of Brian Brodersen interviewing Rick Warren. In the short clip, Brian says he wants to address some of the “controversies” involving Warren. Brodersen sets up Warren with an opportunity to once again disclaim any involvement in the ecumenical antics that have become know as “Chrislam”.  Although Warren continues to claim the whole thing is a lie, the facts show otherwise. There is substantial evidence to prove that Warren’s Chrislam indeed exists.

The video below shows the clip posted on the Calvary Chapel Facebook page:

 

The first piece of evidence is the from the December 2011 archives of the blog of the Islamic Center of Southern California [ICSC].

The text of the ICSC post reads as follows:

“Last Sunday a historic event took place at Saddleback Church in Orange County, California. Saddleback is known for its famous pastor, Rick Warren, who delivered the prayer at President Obama’s inauguration ceremony. The church hosted a number of Muslim communities in Southern California for it’s second annual celebration of Jesus. This event is significant because Saddleback is the largest evangelical church, with over 22,000 members.

Although only a select number of individuals were invited to this dinner, it demonstrates [NOTE] the new theological position of Saddleback. At the celebration, a document [NOTE] *one year in the making was presented, which encourages Christians and Muslims to appreciate the similarities of our faiths.

The document encouraged that our communities work together towards the common good, and to combat bigotry on a 1-2-3 plan. The first step in the plan identifies the belief in ONE God. The second step in the plan acknowledges God’s commandment to love God and your neighbor. Finally, step three is for our communities to commit to three things: Making friends, building peace, and serving the world at large together.

The relationship with Saddleback church was initiated over a year ago with a friendship between one of the pastors, Abraham Meulenberg, and the ICSC’s Jihad Turk. From this friendship [NOTE] developed an institutional link between their respective organizations.”

The link for this info is here: http://www.donotbesurprised.com/2012/02/historic-interfaith-document-was-one.html

In February 2012, Apprising Ministries posted it’s article “Rick Warren, Islam and Jim Hinch”:  http://apprising.org/2012/02/27/rick-warren-islam-and-jim-hinch/  wherein documentation is given showing Warren’s response to Hinch’s OC Register expose’ and also Hinch’s reply to Warren’s comment. See the screen capture below.

In March 2012, Apprising Ministries exposed the ongoing ecumenical links between Warren’s Saddleback Church and Muslim clerics. See http://apprising.org/2012/03/11/rick-warren-says-no-kings-way-document-and-no-saddleback-staff-involved/  and also see: http://apprising.org/2012/03/14/more-on-the-kings-way-presentation-at-saddleback-church/

Significantly, the article by OC Register reporter Jim Hinch that caused the initial uproar was reprinted in it’s entirety by the ICSC blog in 2012. The link is HERE:  http://blog.icsconline.org/2012/02/in-the-media-rick-warren-builds-bridge-to-muslims/ Screen capture is below.

On March 9, 2012 the OC Register published excerpts of the King’s Way documents, which testify to the ongoing Chrislamic endeavors. The link is HERE: http://www.ocregister.com/2012/03/09/kings-way-document-excerpts/ Also see: http://www.solasisters.com/2012/03/is-kings-way-interfaith-document-or-not.html

Warren’s defense regarding his involvement in “Chrislam” has been essentially a matter of semantics and deception. Although he himself may not have been personally involved in the 2012 ICSC affair, his associate pastor (who is responsible to him) had an ongoing relationship, open communication with and an “Institution link” to a the ICSC.

Beyond the events of 2012, the inescapable facts are that Warren personally signed his name to the list of Christian leaders who supported the Islam affirming Yale Divinity School “Response” to the 2007 document known as “A Common Word Between Us and You“, which was drawn up by a group of Muslim clerics – ostensibly to:

“Promote constructive engagement between these major religious communities; Planning is underway for a series of major conferences and workshops involving many of the signatories to A Common Word and to the Yale response, as well as other Christian, Muslim and Jewish leaders.”

This document is ecumenical to it’s core. It positively compares the god of the Muslims to the God of the bible, and places the Muslim scriptures on a par with Christian scripture. The Yale “Response” purports to “Find deep affinities with our own Christian faith” and the Islamic scriptures.

The “Yale Response” document states in part:

What is so extraordinary about A Common Word Between Us and You is… a deep insight and courage with which they have identified the common ground between the Muslim and Christian… What is common between us lies not in something marginal nor in something merely important to each. It lies, rather, in something absolutely central to both: love of God and love of neighbor…”

“So much common ground exists – common ground in some of the fundamentals of faith—gives hope that undeniable differences and even the very real external pressures that bear down upon us can not overshadow the common ground upon which we stand together…”

“We applaud that A Common Word Between Us and You stresses so insistently the unique devotion to one God… In the Muslim tradition, God, “the Lord of the worlds,” is “The Infinitely Good and All-Merciful.” And the New Testament states clearly that “God is love” (1 John 4:8)…”

“We find [NOTE] DEEP AFFINITIES with our own Christian faith when A Common Word Between Us and You insists that love is the pinnacle of our duties toward our neighbors. “None of you has faith until you love for your neighbor what you love for yourself,” the Prophet Muhammad said. In the New Testament we similarly read, “whoever does not love [the neighbor] does not know God” (1 John 4:8)…”

*THIS is what Rick Warren gave his approval, and became a signatory to! The entire document is available HERE: http://www.acommonword.com/

Regardless of whether of not Warren had personal involvement in the 2012 debacle, his signature on the Yale Response document clearly shows his Chrislamic affinities. Thus Brian Brodersen is once again shown to be the facilitator and legitimatizer of Rick Warren’s lies.

It is also worth noting that the website of “A Common Word” is linked to the UN affiliated site, World Interfaith Harmony Week [http://worldinterfaithharmonyweek.com/]

Additionally, there is photographic evidence of Warren speaking at an Islamic Society of North America [ISNA] affiliated event. (See below)

On a personal note: Although I usually try to present the documentation objectively, I have to say here that I believe that for Brian Brodersen, and thus, for Calvary Chapel to actively promote the lies and the cover-up instituted by Rick Warren and his cohorts is nothing short of despicable. Once again we see mega-church pastors more concerned about protecting their brands and their own corporate assets than about the welfare of the sheep they have been entrusted with. May The Lord deliver his sheep from the hands of these men.

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For more on Brian Brodersen see: https://emergentwatch.com/2014/12/16/the-false-gospel-of-the-whosoevers/

And: https://emergentwatch.com/2015/05/31/calvary-chapel-alert-leaderships-stealth-partnership-with-the-church-of-england-and-catholics/

And: https://emergentwatch.com/2016/05/08/calvary-chapel-alert-brian-brodersen-now-partnering-with-hillsong-and-other-aberrant-groups-at-his-uk-creation-fest/

And: https://emergentwatch.com/2016/10/24/calvary-chapel-pastors-conference-2016-leadership-departing-form-gods-word/

And: https://emergentwatch.com/2017/05/17/brian-brodersens-creation-fest-hosting-major-contemplative-event/

For more on Rick Warren see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9u94uDhJ6Q

And: https://emergentwatch.com/2017/06/14/rick-warrens-saddleback-church-promoting-contemplative-rituals/

 

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How to Ignore “Discernment Bloggers” and Stay Comfortably Clueless

[This is a Repost of Steve Kozar’s piratechristian.com satire of 9/14/2016]

Want to stay comfortable in your (theologically shallow & Biblically illiterate) Christian beliefs? Even if those beliefs are not really based on God’s Word?? Of course you do! Here’s a guide that will keep you in the dark, and will help you to avoid the bothersome content of whichever discernment bloggers are currently bugging you:

  1. Start with this assumption: There aren’t any false teachers. With this handy starting point everything else falls comfortably into place. Just tell yourself that people who proclaim a different Gospel are just… different. It’s like the difference between hotdogs and hamburgers. If there are no false teachers, then it logically follows that all discernment bloggers are wrong. Now you won’t have to consider what they say!
  2. Go with the group. If the majority agrees with you, you must be right. Remember, Jesus wants you to follow the most popular teachers, even when they twist the Bible. Discernment bloggers are not popular, so they must be wrong. Now you won’t have to consider what they say!
  3. Lump them all together. It’s true: some discernment bloggers are too extreme and exaggerate too much, or they go off on some crazy bunny trails; therefore you can ignore everything that every discernment blogger says (see points 1 & 2).
  4. They are mean and angry, therefore, they are wrong. If you think they’re mean and angry… well, that means they are mean and angry. Now you won’t have to consider what they say!
  5. Criticize their criticism. Discernment bloggers are not speaking in love when they call out false teachings and teachers, therefore you can ignore the actual content of what they say. Once you understand this you can freely criticize them, because it’s not unloving when you and your group does it.
  6. Say something like this: “The Holy Spirit leads me-I don’t need all this theological stuff.” Remember, the Holy Spirit leads us, but He does it by using God’s Word. So if you want to remain clueless, just focus on the thoughts that pop into your head, and avoid the Bible (and it’s theology) at all costs. If you do decide to read your Bible, make sure to avoid the actual meaning of passages, which can be determined by simply understanding the context. Instead, use your Bible like a divining rod or a crystal ball, that way the Bible will always agree with you and your ideas!
  7. Give them a label. This is a great thought-stopper. Label all discernment bloggers with a generic and meaningless label so you can comfortably ignore them.

Examples: (A) “He’s into those Christian conspiracy theories, it’s really sad.” (Never define “Christian conspiracy theory;” thus people  can be grouped together with Bigfoot hunters and UFO hobbyists.) (B) “He’s one of those judgmental, Bible-thumping Christians now. He’s a religious Pharisee; he’s always quoting Bible verses.” (Hint: never define “judgmental” or “Bible-thumping” or “religious Pharisee.” (C)“Ever since she’s been reading those discernment articles she’s gotten too negative. God’s in control, right? Why worry so much?!” (Hint: if you ever realized how brain-dead the church has become, you’d be “negative” for a while, too. So keep ignoring all the proof that surrounds you, and stay away from your Bible which repeatedly warns you to watch out for false doctrine!)

The original article is here:  http://www.piratechristian.com/messedupchurch/2016/9/how-to-ignore-discernment-bloggers-and-stay-comfortable-clueless

Dallas Theological Seminary Gone Contemplative?

The ministry of EmergentWatch began as a means to alert Christians to the infiltration of false teachings coming into the churches, under the radar of most – coming into the bookstores right in their local churches. EW published a number of bookstore surveys, searching for materials by known false teachers. After being exposed, two churches surveyed slapped a copyright violation claim against two of EW’s video presentations, exposing Calvary Chapel of Downey and Rick Warren’s Saddleback church. Both videos were subsequently removed.

Two Christian Seminaries were also examined in late 2013. Fuller Theological (With predictably bad results; See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCbS3Mwo07A), and Dallas Theological. The latter returned some alarming results, as it is widely know as a bastion of conservative Christianity.

A recent article by Lighthouse Trails explains:

“Dallas Theological Seminary (DTS) has always maintained that while they teach Spiritual Formation, they only teach the “good” kind and that they are not a school that promotes contemplative spirituality. Lighthouse Trails has always challenged these suppositions. In fact, it wasn’t that long ago when Lighthouse Trails editors had some correspondence with two different DTS faculty members (one a dean) who insisted that DTS was not promoting contemplative spirituality…”

See the complete article here: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=23055

EmergentWatch did a Bookstore survey of the DTS online bookstore in November 2013, and published the results, showing hundreds of books and tapes by many known false teachers. Another survey was done on 7/21-22/2017, and shows that rather than the problem being corrected, it has gotten worse – and now includes authors such as Leonard Sweet, Henri Nouwen, Tony Campolo, Phyliss Tickle and other recognized heretical teachers. The bookstore survey is now in jpeg format.

The above results are of only a partial, and not a comprehensive survey – Yet, it certainly does appear that DTS, like so many other Christian institutions now, has been overrun with the spirit of this age.

 See also: Christian Bookstores – selling anything for profit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTQH9TGun20

Hillsong, Bethel Music and The Great Seduction

For the first time, Hillsong United is uniting with Bethel (Redding’s) Music for a “Night of Worship” on July 21 @ the Redding Civic Auditorium. Note that by their participation, Hillsong is effectively declaring their affinity with Bethel Redding, it’s music, and by default, it’s doctrines.

That these two groups should join together is hardly surprising, as both have been at the forefront of the transformation of church music – from the worship of God, to effectively worshiping “worship” music – From music that exalts God, into music that exalts an experiential “encounter” with “the presence”, and which magnifies feelings and emotions.

See the FB page: http://See https://www.facebook.com/events/287159281729072/?acontext={“action_history”:”[{\”surface\”:\”page\”,\”mechanism\”:\”page_upcoming_events_card\”,\”extra_data\”:[]}]”,”has_source”:true}

And see: https://www.facebook.com/bethelmusic/videos/1746729115357538/

The Word of God says that: “God is a Spirit: those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” – John 4:24 And – “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” – John 17:17; Jesus proclaims: “The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” – John 6:63

Many have apparently forgotten that the Holy Spirit will not magnify Himself or some alleged experience, but will magnify Jesus! “However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me…” – John 16:13-14

“The Spirit expressly says, that in latter times some shall depart from the faith, *giving heed to SEDUCING spirits, and doctrines of devils!” – 1Tim. 4:1

“Giving heed to” implies active “LISTENING to”; And, the Gk. Word used for “seducing” spirits is planos : meaning ‘imposter” or “deceiver”… “seducing”. Now, consider: The word used in 1Cor. 14:25 – [G4352] proskuneo …to crouch down or prostrate…worship; fr. G4314 <>> the same root as the “giving heed in 1Tim.4:

Once the enemy gets you in the subjective, sensual, emotional arena, where God’s Word is no longer the objective foundation – Then you can be manipulated, being led by seductive sensations and feelings, and discernment become almost impossible.

It has been observed that much of the contemporary Christian music by Hillsong, Bethel and Jesus Culture, etc. has more in common with the songs of the Trance genre, than with genuine Christian worship.

It is no secret that Bethel Redding teaches the doctrinal aberrations of the New Apostolic Reformation [NAR]. Their practices are also deviant – and from “grave sucking” to “fire tunnels” and the shaking and quaking of the Toronto “blessing”, etc. – Bethel attendees have been shown exhibiting some of the most bizarre occultic manifestations. This is the ripened fruit of Bethel.

Consider what Bethel Music says of itself, that they are: “a worship ministry formed as an extension of Bethel (Redding) Church and founded by Brian and Jenn Johnson”.  A tree is surely known by it’s fruit.

Remember what Hillsong Worship Leader JD revealed on 1/28/2015 – “We [Hillsong Worship] are about fulfilling our Senior Pastor’s [Brian Houston] vision – not our own” and that “As amazing as our creative ideas might be, if they don’t ultimately line up [NOT with scripture, but ) what our Senior Pastor and leaders want, then we happily put them aside… Our worship teams EXIST TO BUILD THE CHURCH!”

Yet somehow all this goes out the window, and discernment is set aside, as their seductive music is extolled as “beautiful” and “wonderful” worship, and is played in bible teaching churches across the globe.

C.H. Fisher (1), in his Truth Keepers blog states: “Many of the ones that rush to associate with Bethel Music in their concerts might never accept the bizarre shenanigans of Bethel Church. The alluring music has seduced them into to associating rather than exposing. Further, Bethel Music’s siren songs have the hypnotic effect of covering up one hard fact. If the spirits of darkness are in the source, then the same spirits are in the flow. “Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?” (James 3:11) “A bad tree cannot bear good fruit.” (Matthew 7:15-20).”

And: “Bethel Music does not go around the country putting on concerts to showcase talent, to entertain people, or to make lots of money. The so-called worship team is on the road for one purpose. That purpose is to unite people with the spirits that comprise its source, Bethel Church.”

And, Instead of exposing the darkness, “professing Christians are bonding with Bethel Music in a concert. They weave and sway with the music, their spirits open and receptive, being stroked by the ebb and flow of the rhythms and hypnotic sounds.” They unwittingly are fellowshiping with demons.

1: http://www.truthkeepers.com/?p=754 [Bethel Music; a work of darkness; 1/27/2015]

 

The use of pleasant sounding music to seduce and win converts is not a new tactic. Author Brandon Hines notes: “How was it, then, that Arius spread his [Arian Heresy] doctrine, if it was as clearly venomous as it is? Photius of Constantinople wrote, “Arius, after his secession from the church, composed several songs to be sung by sailors, and by millers, and by travelers along the high road, and others of the same kind, which he adapted to certain tunes, as he thought suitable in each separate case, and thus by degrees seduced the minds of the unlearned by the attractiveness of his songs…” – Enchanted and Ensnared by Music 11/31/16

If the theology of a church is aberrant, it’s music should not be used public worship. A biblical theology of worship is concerned with the true worship of God. True biblical worship must be reverent (Hebrews 12:28). We must understand who is being worshiped. God is holy, just, and perfect. We are sinners saved by grace coming before a holy God on the basis of our Redeemer. worship must be “in truth,” that is, our worship must be properly informed (John 4:24). Unless we have correct knowledge of the God we worship, we will not be worshiping in truth. Those who wish to worship biblically must worship God as He is revealed in Scripture.

If the church teaches and practices false doctrines, it music will, by default, be worshiping a false, or counterfeit Christ.

 

In the same chapter where the apostle Paul reveals that the enemy “Transforms himself into an angel of light. (and that) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves…” (2Cor. 11:14-5) he also warns believers that: “I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!: – 2Cor. 11:4-5

See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxZIRlWu6ks

 

EmergentWatch and Friends Falsely Accused of “Slander”

This article is written in response to the unwarranted attack upon my friend Eric Stuckey, by Holland Davis [Calvary Chapel San Clemente] in his FB article posted 6/2/2017, entitled: “EMERGENT WATCH OR EMERGENT SLANDER?See: https://www.facebook.com/hollanddavis/posts/10212281628851463

First of all, Eric Stuckey is not the owner of the EmergentWatch blog, nor did he write the article exposing the “Pastors Together” group. Eric only posted or “shared” it on his Facebook timeline. Eric is most certainly not guilty of anything, particularly regarding the EW blog. He is now being falsely accused by Davis for “slander” and for allegedly lying.

Eric had only been involved initially with my EW blog, was listed as an admin. (not an owner”) and wrote only two articles, none of which criticized anyone. He has not been involved, or written anything since then – over 3 years ago. Eric wrote only two articles for the EW blog, in the first months of it’s creation.

1- “Noting the Dividers and Offenders“, on 11/16/2013, wherein he shows the biblical precedents for naming names of those involved in false teachings. 2- “Biblical Outreaches” of 12/17/2013. Neither of these articles had anything to do with Holland Davis or the PT group.

I have stated publicly on several occasions on my Facebook page that I -Mark Jefferies – am the writer of the posts on EmergentWatch, and the creator of the related videos on You Tube, formerly under the screen name 4Philemon.

It was after careful research that the “Pastors Together“, of 1/24/2016 post was posted. It was based on publicly available screen captured evidence which is now a matter of public record. I posted 2 posts in early 2016 on Holland Davis and the PT group: 1- 1/24/2016 – https://emergentwatch.com/2016/01/24/pastors-together-a-fellowship-of-errors/ 

2- The EW post of 3/26/2016 on HD & his “Pastors Together” group was simply a posting of my You Tube video, “Pastors Together – Together in Ecumenical Apostasy“. https://emergentwatch.com/2016/03/26/pastors-together-together-in-ecumenical-apostasy/

I did not personally slander Holland. I did surmise from the available data, that Holland “appeared to be” the leader of the PT group, as he is the one actively promoting it on social media. I also did point out his reposting of an IHOP post that was highly questionable, and this post has since been removed from his page.

I stand behind my research in these posts. It is a matter of historical record, as the screen captured documentation remains valid. How screen captured documentation can be interpreted as “slander” is beyond me.

Although the PT group page has removed the “What we Believe” page – that linked them to the ecumenical Lausanne Covenant has been removed, it appears that all of the same churches that were involved at the time I wrote the blog piece are still currently involved. 

Rather than be accountable to the public for their actions and statements, some here have misused Matt. 18, in an attempt to intimidate believers into silence. This is an abuse of pastoral authority, and disingenuous to say the least.

PS: Note that some of the people in positions of power, whose unbiblical activities have been exposed by EmergentWatch are apparently now feeling threatened enough that they will resort to these false accusations; Even enlisting the help of as many supporters as they can, in an attempt to discredit and silence EmergentWatch – so they can continue their activities without fear of exposure. Again, the documentation on this blog speaks for itself.

Attention – EmergentWatch viewers:

It has recently come to my attention that the EW blog server (WordPress.com) is placing ads that are unaffiliated with, and unsupported by me or my blog – And that some of these ads are from various groups that may include false teachings. I compose, and usually view my articles on my desktop, wherein ads are not displayed. However, when I recently viewed my blog on my mobile device, I saw ads for books by David C. Pack, a disciple of Herbert W. Armstrong (Worldwide Church of God) Be advised that the doctrines taught by this group and their affiliates are aberrant. This is just one example of bad ads being inserted in my blog.

See: https://www.jashow.org/articles/false-teaching/armstrongism/armstrongism/

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restored_Church_of_God

and see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_W._Armstrong

As I can’t constantly monitor, nor have I control over, what ads are being placed on my blog – let the viewers be advised that ads seen on my blog are not mine, nor do I endorse them.

The Shack Movie – On Shaky Ground

As there have been many good reviews of the movie (and the book) The Shack – it is not my intent here to do another. Rather, I have done a satirical Photoshop hack of The Shack movie poster, that I believe, adequately expresses my sentiments on the subject.

For a well balance review of the movie, please see Lighthouse Trails/ Warren B. Smith’s article: Before Watching The Shack Movie, Read This – The “Inspiration” Behind the Movie and Eugene Peterson’s Connection

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=22067

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